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War, Science, and Philosophy in a Fractured World.

62 years ago…waiting for the bank to open, 11AM, Thursday, 9 August 1945.

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Almost everyone knows about the atomic bombing of Hiroshima during the second world war. Few know the name of the other city bombed just three days later. Sixty two years ago today in the second (and so far the last) nuclear attack in history, America dropped the “Fat Man” atomic bomb on the city of Nagasaki, Japan. Today with the possible use of nuclear weapons being used under discussion for the first time since the end of the cold war, I thought it was a good time to review this unpleasant topic.

The blast killed between 70 and 80 thousand people instantly. As nuclear weapons go, Fat Man was a small bomb, the yield was the equivalent of 21 thousand tons of TNT. That’s about what could be carried in 200 railroad boxcars, quite a bang for about 14 pounds of explosive. The blast reached 3800C (7000F,) winds generated were over 1000 kph (700 mph.) The blast occurred at about 450 M (1500 feet) above the ground. Someone was sitting on the steps of the Sumitomo Bank about 250m (250 yards) from the explosion. What is left of him or her is pictured above.

While killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, including hundreds of American POWs, the nuclear attacks on Japan hastened the end of the war and saved countless American lives. That at least is the rationale for the bombing that was developed and promulgated shortly after the war. It’s still debated today, many stick to the “saving American lives” line, while others suggest that the bombs were more intended to impress the Russians and/or to get Japan to surrender before the Russians “liberated” huge swaths of Japanese occupied China/Korea.

This is all of course self serving poppycock, as anyone who has any knowledge of history should acknowledge. Americans for the most part reviled the Japanese before and during the war, this was an era where blatant racism was acceptable. The atom bombs specifically were revenge for Pearl Harbor and generally were payback for Japanese atrocities throughout the war. People who say differently are deceiving themselves. (Even when I was in the service in the 70s a popular T-shirt had a picture of a mushroom cloud and the caption “Remember Pearl Harbour. Hiroshima, Nagasaki…they had it coming.”)

Just for grins, those who proffer the “military necessity” story have to explain away why General Eisenhower, General MacArthur, Admiral Nimitz, and many other high ranking US commanders opposed the dropping of the bomb:

“…I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives.”

Dwight D. Eisenhower (1890-1969) then Supreme Commander of Allied forces in Europe, future President of the United Sates

“The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in the defeat of Japan.”

Chester W. Nimitz (1885-1966) Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet

Like all atrocities, the nuclear attacks on Japan were a choice, not a necessity.

In final ironic note, few know that unlike the Hiroshima bomb, the Nagasaki bomb missed its target, the city centre, by two miles. This is why fewer people died in this blast as opposed to the 90 thousand or more that died at Hiroshima. By missing the city by two miles the USA did hit another target spot on, the Nagasaki bomb detonated directly over the largest Christian community in Japan. Only a few of them survived. I still don’t know what to think about that, but it’s certainly something for Christians to ponder.

(The above image of the smudge left by a vapourized human being is claimed as Fair Use under US copyright law. It is not being used for profit, it is central to the subject of the post, and it is an historically important image. The steps and last “remains” of this unknown person are now preserved in the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum.)


Written by unitedcats

August 9, 2007 at 7:10 am

Posted in History, Philosophy, War, WMDs, World

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  1. Nagasaki isn’t even on my day in history widget. How bad is that ? On some of your facts.
    Japan had surrender terms but their Supreme War Council was divided.The “secret” of US accepting the Emperor staying but not saying so is a worthy point.
    The Japanese were not 100 % surrender ready. Would it take Operation Olympia or the Bombs to move them ?
    The Russians late in the game declaration raised as many eyebrows in Tokyo as D.C..The christians ? 2 miles don’t matter much w/ a nuke. Russian Cold War loads were based on that thought.
    Last thought. Nagasaki wasn’t in the original 4 target possibles.Sad twist.


    August 9, 2007 at 8:48 am

  2. Whatever may have justified or not the actions of that time, there is no conceivable circumstance in which nuclear weapons can be justified in a future act of war on this planet.


    August 9, 2007 at 2:44 pm

  3. Still better than if Kyoto had been nuked. The Wikipedia article is quite informative on why the Americans chose a civilian centre rather than a military one, and why Kyoto’s high culture score saved it.

    IMHO, I would still be scared sh*tless into surrendering if two bombs were dropped, one flattening Mount Fuji and one over the biggest sakura forest they can find.

    …Although the destruction of the holy mountain might cause the Japanese to dig in even deeper, and both bombs would cause an even bigger outcry from the environmentalists! (judging by their seeming indifference to human suffering as long as Gaia is all cosy)

    Scott Thong

    August 9, 2007 at 6:55 pm

  4. Flattening Mount Fuji? I don’t think you have a realistic sense of the energy required to do that.


    August 10, 2007 at 4:39 pm

  5. One certainly can make a case defending the use of the bomb on Japan, my point was that the popular narrative where we “had no other choice” and that the bomb “absolutely saved American lives” is at best a rationalization and at worst simply propaganda.


    August 10, 2007 at 4:56 pm

  6. Thanks for the Eisenhower quote, Doug.


    August 11, 2007 at 5:23 am

  7. A blogger wrote:
    “there is no conceivable circumstance in which nuclear weapons can be justified in a future act of war on this planet”

    Of course there are! You just adhere to slogans and platitudes with no consideration of the situation. It does not make you appear to be more of a humanist than everyone else, quite the contrary.


    August 12, 2007 at 8:23 am

  8. ET, contradiction is not an argument.


    August 12, 2007 at 9:17 am

  9. Doug:
    Thanks for the link to the Christian “every church a peace church” site. I’m going to blog on it.


    August 13, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  10. wow..this is scary!


    March 8, 2008 at 11:20 am

  11. […] epicentre (the point where the bomb exploded) are going to burst into flame or be incinerated as this fellow was. Presumably the gentle reader survives this part of the explosion, and here’s where it gets […]

  12. The picture you referenced is not “what is left of him or her” but rather the shadow of a man burned into the step. The man was waiting in line to get into the Sumitomo Bank.


    April 2, 2009 at 5:57 pm

  13. They just could of destroyed the japs railroad, instead they used the japs as ginny pigs.

    say no to black eyed people

    July 9, 2010 at 1:28 pm

  14. […] that were vaporized and blasted away by the initial flash of light the explosion generated, the brighter than a million suns light  ignites anything flammable close to the explosion light. To test this, bombs were set off with the guy lies painted in reflective paint or covered in tin […]

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