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The New World Disorder, why I don’t worry about World Government

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This is kind of a generalist conspiracy theory post. There’s conspiracy theories about an incipient USA police state, North American Union government, world government, or some combination of the three. And as I’ve said before, no one has a crystal ball, and human history has gone down all sorts of unexpected and unlikely paths before … so pretty much anything is possible. That being said, here are some of the general reasons why I don’t lose any sleep over any of these albeit alarming possibilities.

The first is the simple observation that global power and wealth is more concentrated than at any time in history, a tiny handful of families and corporations control the lion’s share of the world’s assetsd. Many of these families have been accumulating this wealth and power for centuries. When you are already King of the Hill, there’s no where else to go. IE the powers that be don’t need a police state to control us, they already control us through advertising and the “media.” This alone is the primary reason I don’t lose any sleep over incipient police states or such. It’s too late.

Secondly, there’s the problem of the essential practicality of such an undertaking. No matter how much technology the police state has at its disposal, sooner or that that information has to be filtered through human brains. IE there is a limit to what can be accomplished by trying to micromanage people’s lives from the centre somewhere. This is borne out by twentieth century experiments in same. The big three experiments along totalitarian lines, Nazi Germany, Mao’s China, and the USSR … all ended badly. That doesn’t mean someone won’t try, but even if they do, I think it’s doomed to failure. There is some limit to the size of a police state, and I don’t think it’s very high.

Thirdly, usually when someone wants to control the very lives of their subjects, it’s because there is ideology or personality involved. And by personality, I mean some central character with malignant narcissism like Hitler. Well, the powers that be in the west are diffuse enough that it seems unlikely that some single individual will be able to assume world wide (or even US wide) dictatorial powers. (The idea that Obama is going to be some sort of dictator doesn’t pass the laugh test.) And if there’s any real ideology to capitalism, I haven’t seen it. Greed, ambition, and lack of scruples isn’t an ideology. It’s a pathology, but I digress.

Lastly, I ‘ve been around for awhile. And I’ve been seeing the same recycled imminent police state theories since the mid seventies. Hell, they’ve been a literary genre since the end of World War Two. That alone should give people pause. It’s already 25 years after 1984, and there’s no world wide police state yet. It makes me think that a good argument can be made that this belief is part and parcel of the modern human experience, more myth than real possibility. The endless choices that face people in the modern world are bewildering, it’s not surprising that it’s easy to believe that some evil entity could control it all. Or some good entity, there is a striking morphological similarity between  NWO conspiracy theories and belief in the second coming.

Which oddly enough leads me to the one situation where there is the possibility of an ideologically driven police state or even global police state. And that would be some sort of Evangelical Christian police state. Certainly not a new idea, it too as a conspiracy meme has been around since at least The Handmaid’s Tale. How likely is that? Damned if I know. I think my final observation, and again one I have made before under similar contexts, is that I think that people who worry about the unpleasant possibilities of a new world order are missing the point. We already have a very unpleasant situation where the rich are ever getting richer, let’s deal with the devil we have instead of the devil we might have.

Moving right along, I’ll post on the Ft. Sills massacre sometime soon, as is usually the case with something like this, I want to wait awhile for the facts to settle out of the dust. It’s pretty sickening though, both the act itself … and what some people have said in response. In fact the later is even more sickening in some ways. Jesus wept.

Have a great weekend everyone.

(The above image of a swastika shaped building is from Google Earth and I’m claiming it as Fair Use under US copyright law. It’s not being used for profit and its use here in no conceivable way interferes with the copyright holder’s commercial use of the image. It’s the barracks for the navy Seals and as far as anyone can tell its shape was purely accidental. IE it’s a great shape to maximize window exposure and have some courtyards to boot, window exposure is important as it was built in the pre-air conditioner era in Coronado California. The Navy has taken so much criticism that they are going to spend over $600,000 to change the shape of the building so it no longer looks like a swastika from space. Yeah, that’s a good use of taxpayer’s money.)


Written by unitedcats

November 6, 2009 at 8:55 am

Posted in Business, History, World

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  1. What if the devil we have IS the devil we might have?
    Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure yadda yadda…
    Thinking that all “Conspiracy Theories” are just kookie talk, is just denial of the reality that there are evil men in this world out to take whatever they want by whatever means.
    Personally I would rather know about and plan for the possibility, than to pretend it doesn’t exist and not “worry” about it.
    No, not everyone is out to “get you”, but to pretend that no one is, is childish at best.

    If you live on a cliff, not worrying about falling off might let you live a happier life, but then, you might fall off the cliff.
    (a.k.a. ignorance is bliss)

    Ignorance- the state in which one lacks knowledge, is unaware of something or chooses to subjectively ignore information.



    November 9, 2009 at 7:59 am

  2. You’re not explaining why the people who already control the world would need some sort of secret plot to control the world further? They have their hands full already managing what they have, but granted they do so love these theories since they keeps people from focusing on the obvious conspiracy … to use a terrible crime (9/11) to justify endless military spending and foreign aggression.

    I’m also pretty sure I didn’t say all conspiracy theories were “kookie talk.” Turns out an administration did sell arms to our enemies to fund terrorists in Central America. Turns out an administration did conspire to cover up political dirty tricks. And one president secretly had part of his jaw amputated to hide the fact that his health wasn’t so good. Conspiracies do happen.

    And that being said, I’m doing everything I can to encourage people to think for themselves. Maybe it’s not much, but it’s the best I can do to fight evil in the world.


    November 9, 2009 at 8:17 am

  3. “1984” was apparently written about (and in, more or less)… 1948. Orwell took exception to post-war British society.


    November 9, 2009 at 11:09 pm

  4. ” There is some limit to the size of a police state, and I don’t think it’s very high.”

    I think its far larger than we want to realize. Automation and software play a huge role.


    November 12, 2009 at 7:36 am

    • Well, no matter automated and computerized you are, the information gathered still has to be processed somewhere along the line by a human brain. And there’s limits to what the human brain can process.

      Police states also don’t work, every one so far has collapsed from it’s own internal inconsistencies and weaknesses or morphed into something less oppressive. IE people who at least think they are free are far more productive that the cogs in a police state.

      I also am thinking that conspiracy theories are really just a variation on religious beliefs, and I mean that in a good way. IE they fulfil some very basic cultural and psychological needs, they are part and parcel of what it means to be human.

      I also agree that name-calling and polarization appears to be a worsening problem these days, though that is debatable. It’s certainly ugly and completely counter-productive.

      In any event thanks everyone for the thought provoking comments, I’ll definitely be posting more along these lines in the future.


      November 12, 2009 at 8:12 am

  5. I wonder if the Nazis would have gained so much power without the help of IBM? Are we in for a repeat? The tech is so much more advanced than most people realize. Biometrics, global weather modification and genetic engineering/eugenics freak me out the most….

    Check out the HAARP project origins…



    November 13, 2009 at 11:53 am

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