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The very last Obama-Romney “debate.” Thank God, I couldn’t take another one.

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Here is my unscripted, unedited, sometimes patently offensive responses to the debate as it occurred. Apologies in advance, this is to reproduced to stimulate thought and discussion, not to get anyone’s knickers in a twist. And I was subsequently presented with reasonable argument and already changed my mind about one thing I said below, enjoy:

Debate started. 2 minutes of pure lies and BS by Romney. This will be fun.

Followed by two minutes of gibberish from Obama.

And now Mitt is promising to fix all the problems in the Middle East!

Lies and gibberish back and forth.

Israel is NOT our ally, tired of that lie.

Romney is going to wave a magic wand and turn Syria into our ally.

And now Obama is claiming Libya was a brilliant success. @@

How the hell did Americans get the idea that we get to decide who is running other countries? Worse, how the hell have they not noticed that this almost always makes things worse?

And Romney could have made things turn out better in Egypt, must be nice to have God like powers. And now he’s going to promote peace!

And now Romney is claiming our economy is the problem with our foreign policy, cheap shot.

Right, America is the “indispensable nation.” Dogmeat.

And Romney’s magic wand is going to work on the economy as well! He got in some teacher bashing, nice.

They ran out of “foreign policy” and are going on and on a about economic fantasies.

“Let me get back to foreign policy.” The moderator is pretending to have balls. They ignored him.

Lies and more lies about health care.

“You don’t balance your budget, you’re out of business.” I guess Romney wasn’t including Wall Street where if you don’t balance your budget, the government bails you out.

Arguing about military budget trivia when we are spending more money on our military than the rest of the world combined is surreal.

Right, Obama is going to help veterans. He forgot to do that during the past four years?

And now the comic book world where Iran attacks Israel. We are cooperating with Israel? Maybe. They return the favour by spying on us and influencing our politics. Some ally.

And now Obama’s bragging about destroying Iran’s economy. And apparently mixing up the real Iran with Hollywood Iran.

Neither of them seem to remember that Iran has China and Russia as friends, Putin has stated that an attack on Iran would be considered an attack on Russia.

Iran agreed to a deal a few years back that would have absolutely prevented them from developing nuclear weapons. The US put the kibosh on the deal. So we made this mess, and everything they are spewing about Iran’s nuclear program is lies. Lies, lies, lies.

Obama you LYING SACK OF SHIT. No matter WHAT Iran agrees to the USA will just make more demands.

Lies, lies, lies, lies. Romney will repeat the same lies though.

And now the mewling crap about American weakness and apologies overseas.

You are such a moron Romney, I think he actually believes that if he just puffs out his chest and acts tough other countries will magically roll over and do our bidding.

“Four years closer to a nuclear Iran.” No matter how many times Romney says it, it’s still a lie.

How terrible Obama feels about the tiny number of toy rockets fired at Israel, near children’s bedrooms even. When is he going to visit Pakistan and feel sorry for the hundreds of children our vastly more deadly missiles have killed?

Oh God, invoking 9/11. Um, we didn’t bring OBL to justice, we murdered him. There really is a difference.

“Move Pakistan in the right direction.” Romney has a vivid fantasy life, that’s for sure.

“Pakistan isn’t acting like an ally???? We’re fucking bombing them, what kind of ally does that make us?

Oh good, more flying death squads, Romney promises. News flash: The USA is more hated than India in Pakistan because of our drone strikes.

And now Obama is going to stop corruption, enforce women’s rights, and guarantee free enterprise and democracy in countries like Somalia and Yemen. He’s as delusional (or dishonest) as Romney.

Fortunately the moderator is making sure the debate is framed in the fantasy propaganda world that both sides are spewing, some debate.

“The world’s greatest security threat is a nuclear Iran.” Pure, unadulterated dogshit.

It’s all China’s fault. Romney is going to fix that too.

“You gotta play by the rules.” The US has ignored the rules since WW2, Snort.

And now they’re back on the auto industry, irrelevant lies and gibberish.

It’s like watching ten year olds “debate.”

Shoulda watched the Giants. At least there will be a clear winner and loser, and the rules will be followed.

Romney is going to save the middle class. Snort.

Romney’s concern for suffering Americans, Oh my.

“America as the hope of the Earth.” That’s beyond narcissistic, I think hubris is the word that applies.

It’s over, going to soak my brain in beer to get the taste of the candidates out of it.

Post debate: Obama fiddled to his base beautifully. Romney less so, but he didn’t eat his tie and he held his ground even when being pummeled; he played well in Peoria I expect. Both stayed safely within the America the Saviour fantasy script. I don’t really care who wins, I really meant it when I said this feels like when the Praetorian Guard auctioned off the Empire of Rome to the highest bidder. It didn’t really matter then who won the bidding, the forces already in motion weren’t going to be stayed by mortal man. Whoever wins this election reaps the whirlwind. That usually doesn’t end well.

(The above image is claimed as Fair Use under US copyright law. I think this was Romney’s biggest gaffe. Today’s navy is a little bit larger than the one Obama got from Bush, so it was insane to think they could attack Obama on this. And Obama handled it brilliantly to boot. My absolute final say on the debate: All posture, no substance.)

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October 23, 2012 at 7:56 am

Land Mines for Liberals

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I watched the debate. Much of it at least. Both Obama and Romney make my flesh crawl, so I had to take breaks. It’s over though. I don’t think a winner has been officially declared yet. I have debated the debate with some friends, and perused some Facebook Posts, but otherwise haven’t looked at how the pundits are reacting to the debate. My raw unscripted reaction as it were:

First off, I was appalled at how the mainstream media framed the debate. At least the channel I was watching made a big deal about how much “momentum” Romney had, and they so much as said that Obama had to win big to get back in the race. Yes, the election of the president of the most powerful nation the world has ever seen reduced to a shallow popularity contest at best. Racing cockroaches at worst. Hmm, did I type that aloud? As an aside from the facile shallowness of this approach to a presidential debate, it also sets Obama up to fail. Unless he dominates Romney, he loses. Say what?

Then, the questions. Every one I heard, and I heard most or all of them, seemed like a carefully constructed liberal land mine. IE a question designed to trip up liberals, basically questions that the conservative ideology on was very clear, so any answer that didn’t satisfy that was doomed to fail. There were no questions where Obama could shine. How the hell did this happen? Was the debate specifically set up so that Obama would fail? Hmm.

Worse, when presented with these clearly biased questions, instead of going on the offense, Obama fell back on liberal talking points. My favourite was the gun control question. Obama’s record on gun control is zilch, in fact he has let some gun control laws lapse without a fight. Even then, he has been endlessly pilloried by the right as a threat to gun ownership. So what does he do when the question comes up? He talks about gun control! He might as well have announced he was the anti-Christ. He could have pointed out that the Supreme Court had ruled that the second amendment guaranteed the Right to Bear Arms, and pretty much left it at that. It’s not like he was going to lose any liberal votes. Instead the next issue of the National Rifleman practically writes itself.

That in a nutshell was why I think by accident or design Obama threw the debate and the election. He preached to the choir, when he needed to appeal to Ron Paulists, intelligent conservatives, hard-core green voters, and militarists. I know this because I’m a card-carrying member of all four. Obama failed to redirect his message at the people he most needed to reach. This is the kiss of death. Granted Romney did no better, but he didn’t have to. All he had to do was look presidential while he pontificated, and he was golden. Romney looked Reaganesque to me, that may be all it takes to get a white back in the White House.

Granted I am biased, and there is absolutely no doubt that people’s preconceptions will colour how they view this debate. “They saw a game” as it were. I saw Obama set up to be a clown, and despite his best efforts, he came off as one. His liberal base is already crowing victory I see, but I also see that conservatives have ample new ammunition. There are advantages to having friends and associates from all over the political spectrum. I get to hear everyone’s prejudices. This makes me the most prejudiced one of all.

So my current thinking is that Romney is going to win the election, and the liberals are screwed no matter what happens. If things go great (snort, but it could happen) then of course Romney saved us all! And if things go to shit, it was all Obama’s fault!

Obama has been pwned. I hope I’m wrong.

(The above image is claimed as Fair Us under US copyright law. It’s not being used for profit, etc. It’s from the Facebook group: Binders Full of Women. yes, things move quickly in cyberspace. I used it because I thought it was funny, and an example of how quickly memes explode these days. Within an hour of the debate and Romney’s “Binders full of women:” remark there’s already a viral response to it. Such an age we live in. )

Written by unitedcats

October 16, 2012 at 9:56 pm